Sunday, March 21, 2010

Open Forum: Gay for Pay or Pay for Gay?

Many in the porn industry are willing to do things they wouldn't ordinarily do to make a particular film scene sexy to their viewers. Some straight actors even say they are willing to go "gay for pay" and do a person of the same-sex that they are not physically attracted to. The industry is heavily reliant on women sexually engaging other women in "lesbian scenes" to make the films more sexually palatable. On the flip side men who have sex with men are able to make a significant amount of money more than if they engaged in sexual acts with women.

Some people say that if a man is able to have sex with another man that he is gay or bisexual. These actors maintain that they have no physical or romantic attraction to the same-sex but are doing a job like any other. Are all the female on female acts women who are lesbian or bisexual? Might we consider that many openly gay people once lived closeted lives married and sexually active with the opposite sex. People can have sex without necessarily enjoying it so are these people really gay for pay or might they enjoy getting paid while also being able to be gay? Weigh in with your thoughts.

7 comments:

outoutout said...

"People can have sex without necessarily enjoying it so are these people really gay for pay or might they enjoy getting paid while also being able to be gay?"

I think the answer to both questions is: "Yes!" Sexual behaviour should never be confused with sexual identity. There are still gay/lesbian folks living and functioning in heterosexual relationships, bi folks functioning in both same/opposite-sex relationships, gay and bi actors who play straight characters on TV and vice versa. So yes, of course someone could be "gay for pay" and someone might also use it as an outlet for their true sexual identity.

Queers United said...

I agree with you that some might be doing it strictly for financial reasons and others might use it as an outlet to sexually express what they truly feel. Why is the gay community so resistant to accepting that some are "gay for pay" they are always branded as gay. It's quite an oxymoron because so much gay porn paints these people as "straight" but engaging in "gay for pay" but when you speak to most people they don't really regard these men as straight.

nobody said...

You know, thats quite an interesting question...

To me, the dynamics of male v female relationships in mainstream porn are a factor in this. While gay male scenes in porn are for men- understandably- gay female scenes in porn are not for women. I don't think that any gay woman with any shard of respect for herself or even just awareness of the condition of other gay women could participate in something as disgusting and degrading as lesbian porn for men. Its quite possible, however, for a straight male porn star to be dabbling in gay porn for his own curiosity. I guess in the end its all speculation.

We hear about gay men and women being in straight marriages all the time- and if a gay person can have sex with someone of the opposite sex and still be gay, couldn't a straight person have sex with someone of the same sex and still be straight?

Kenny said...

I decided quite some time ago that ALL men should be considered 'gay' until proven otherwise. Yes, based on my 60+ years of experience and the gay/"straight" population ratio of the local bathhouse on the weekends.

Lily said...

Well, I'm a lesbian adult actress, and I have performed in (girl/girl only) scenes for mainstream porn companies. My goal is always to be completely present and real in my scenes, and I don't do gimmicky shit or anything I don't want to do on screen (this limits my work at times, but I don't really care).

A fair number of the girls that shoot girl/girl are straight. Honestly straight. They're not into it at all...they seem to be consciously holding themselves away from the work (I've had girls who won't kiss in a scene, etc). The best performers are bisexual or gay, and I've had awesome sex on screen when the chemistry is right.

I don't have any reason to doubt there are men in the same boat. Just because you can get there doesn't mean you're attracted to your costar or genuinely like what you're doing. It just means you're a professional.

Nox said...

actions aren't defining, intentions and desires are. but we don't have the luxury of knowing anything about others except their actions... so we can only assume from what we know. The only thing I can gather from gay for pay is that the person is more flexible in what they're willing to do. that makes them a lot less straight than most, but not exactly queer.

Estraven said...

I had a friend who was not attractive to women, but was attractive to men. The problem was that he was straight. But, he was horny and open-minded, so he really tried with men, but could not get an erection no matter what, because he was STRAIGHT. I have heard the reverse story with men who were truly gay, but for whatever reason decided to give it a try with a woman; no erection. People can use fantasy to produce the erection, and of course a woman can just use store-bought lube, but the erection tells the tale: if you can get hard/wet for both/all genders (without having to use fantasy) you are bisexual. But people will flip-flop every which way from Sunday to NOT use that word, like using it would kill them, so let's just say: you are somewhere in between straight and gay.

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